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  1. Geez, Craig! You blow me away! You must read and study night and day And write as fast as you think, to produce all these fairly in depth articles on such a wide range of subjects. Do you have a stable of captive monkey researchers in your thrall?
    Anyway I really look forward to your essays.

  2. And then there is the case of the growing glacier that somehow proves anthropogenic global warming when it recedes, but it really proves it when it advances…

    “Greenland’s fastest-flowing and fastest-thinning glacier recently threw a real brain bender at scientists, who realized that instead of shrinking, the glacier is actually growing thicker, they reported in a new study.”

    “The finding took the scientists completely by surprise. “At first, we didn’t believe it,” study lead researcher Ala Khazendar, a scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California, said in a statement. “We had pretty much assumed that Jakobshavn would just keep going on as it had over the last 20 years.” But the cold water isn’t a one-off. Data from OMG shows that the water has been cold now for three years in a row.” https://www.livescience.com/65080-greenland-glacier-growing.html

    It’s almost like we live in a world where things are connected, put some ice in the drink…the drink gets cold. Warm it up in this room and open a window in another, guess what happens. There are cycles all over the world that we are only beginning to understand, some we don’t know about, and other we pay no heed to.

    This Spring has been awesome, my road was sloppy for about a week, but with this warm dry weather it is getting nice. Soon all the snow will be gone and it will be time to plant the garden!

    • Steve-O, you probably intended this quote from your link too: “But this crisp change won’t last forever. Once the NAO climate pattern flips back, the Jakobshavn will likely start melting faster and thinning again, the researchers said.” And these guys are talking about a 20 year flip.

      • Bill,
        I alluded to that when I said this magic glacier “proves anthropogenic global warming when it recedes, but it really proves it when it advances…”

        With all the anthropogenic global warming climate Nostradamuses out there, you would think that a couple of them would get it right once in a while. These scientists freely admit that they didn’t believe a glacier that has been receding could stop receding and start to advance. Not only did it do so, but it did it in one year and continued to do so for three years running now.

        Here’s some news for you Bill, glaciers recede and advance. They’ve done so from the time the first one formed and will continue to do so.

        When you put ice in the drink it gets cold, when you take the ice out of the drink it warms up.

      • I agree Steve-O that some glaciers do both but you are talking a special glacier whose face is in salt water that could be influenced by water currents. And no doubt the Mendenhall glacier was at one time such a glacier but it no longer is and my guess is it’s no longer advancing and hasn’t for several hundred years.
        Now, these guys didn’t “get it right” they just observed something happening they were surprised at. And science runs into this regularly-things such as this is what advances science and it’s theories all the time. It marches on, building knowledge. Not even rocket science.

      • Yep, and these scientists said when the water gets warm the ice will melt…nah really?!? Not exactly rocket science is right. Making a prediction that ice melts in warm water, if that is what passes for climate science then it makes sense why these climate scientists had no idea that there was an ocean current that changes from warm to cold roughly every 20 years in the North Atlantic and that that current could maybe possible have an effect on the glacier they are studying.

        There are plenty of glaciers that enter the salt water, while most are currently retreating some are advancing. I tend to think all glaciers are special, they are magnificent objects. The fact of the matter is that overall glaciers as a whole have been receding for thousands and thousands of years, since the last ice age. Bonus points if you remember what that time frame was know as.

      • The interesting thing is Jakobshavn started receding after a lengthy stable period and pretty close to 20 years before it recently started advancing. I wonder if anyone in this study knew this information, it doesn’t appear so.

        “Jakobshavn Isbrae, retreated 30 km (19 mi) from 1850–1964, followed by a stationary front for 35 years…the glacier seemed to be in balance from 1955-1985. After 1997 the glacier began to accelerate and thin rapidly…It also thinned at a rate of up to 15 metres (49 ft) per year and retreated 5 km (3.1 mi) in six years.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakobshavn_Glacier

        Here is one of the more ignorant quotes about glaciers I’ve heard:
        “The thinking was once glaciers start retreating, nothing’s stopping them,” explains Josh Willis, an oceanographer at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and OMG’s lead scientist. “We’ve found that that’s not true.” https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/03/one-part-of-greenland-ice-growing/

        Apparently the rocket scientists at NASA’s JPL on the OMG failed to speak with a glaciologist and have never studied glaciers. Just absurd.

      • The interesting thing is Jakobshavn started receding after a lengthy stable period and pretty close to 20 years before it recently started advancing. I wonder if anyone in this study knew this information, it doesn’t appear so.

        “Jakobshavn Isbrae, retreated 30 km (19 mi) from 1850–1964, followed by a stationary front for 35 years…the glacier seemed to be in balance from 1955-1985. After 1997 the glacier began to accelerate and thin rapidly…It also thinned at a rate of up to 15 metres (49 ft) per year and retreated 5 km (3.1 mi) in six years.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakobshavn_Glacier

      • Here is one of the more ignorant quotes about glaciers I’ve heard:
        “The thinking was once glaciers start retreating, nothing’s stopping them,” explains Josh Willis, an oceanographer at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and OMG’s lead scientist. “We’ve found that that’s not true.” https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/03/one-part-of-greenland-ice-growing/

        Apparently the rocket scientists at NASA’s JPL on the OMG failed to speak with a glaciologist and have never studied glaciers. Just absurd.

    • Steve O,
      I agree with your comment:
      “There are cycles all over the world that we are only beginning to understand, some we don’t know about, and other we pay no heed to.”
      I guess the deciding factor is the “take away” from these “cycles” we are witnessing?
      More Polar Bears are being discovered walking into neighborhoods and many feel this is due to decreases in Arctic Ice.
      “Polar bears prowling around a children’s playground. Polar bears lumbering along the corridors of apartment blocks and offices. Polar bears descending on a sleepy Russian town in their dozens.
      To state the obvious: polar bears should not be wandering into human habitation, and certainly not in these numbers. That they are doing so in Belushya Guba shows how they are being driven off their normal migration routes and hunting trails by a changing climate. This has long been predicted – with the Arctic heating twice as fast as the rest of the planet, winter temperatures are rising and the sea ice – which is the primary habitat of polar bears – is shrinking.”

      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/shortcuts/2019/feb/11/polar-bears-russian-apartment-block-climate-crisis

      • But, I thought “Global Warming” and the resulting “lack” of sea ice was supposed to be killing off the polar bear, not increasing their numbers? I get confused when they say “Global Cooling is actually Global Warming”. You can see how that can get confusing right?

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